tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post258040876668370089..comments2024-01-22T09:29:11.683+00:00Comments on The Conventicle: John Owen vs John Milton, Round 1Chris Rosshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08832290458905110111noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-20056300195678464372007-06-19T23:36:00.000+01:002007-06-19T23:36:00.000+01:00Yes; I love what Packer says about Owen being Elep...Yes; I love what Packer says about Owen being Elephantine. I think that will always stay in my head. I've recently read some of William Cowper's translations of Owen's epigrams, which hopefully I'll post on soon. The same volume of his poetic works has various translations from Milton's Latin...Susan Ahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00894948244988727627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-52930581135516967432007-06-19T22:37:00.000+01:002007-06-19T22:37:00.000+01:00I heard Carl Trueman quoting J.I. Packer that if y...I heard Carl Trueman quoting J.I. Packer that if you read Owen out loud to yourself, you'll begin to hear the rhythm of his writing and have a better time with it. He said Owen is so hard to read because he was so fluent in English and Latin that his English writing was filled with Latinizing tendencies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-11020369375954139432007-06-14T19:59:00.000+01:002007-06-14T19:59:00.000+01:00Yeah, it'd be easy to beat Milton in a fistfight, ...Yeah, it'd be easy to beat Milton in a fistfight, what with him being blind and all....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-17631763121614625452007-06-13T17:03:00.000+01:002007-06-13T17:03:00.000+01:00Maybe there is scope for someone to change the tra...Maybe there is scope for someone to change the trajectory of their research to: "Who was the toughest Puritan?" And propose either Bunyan or Owen. Or, perhaps, bring in some dark horse? V. interesting study and sure to excite scholars like David Ferguson and Susan H. Moore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-73970542303792822142007-06-12T20:52:00.000+01:002007-06-12T20:52:00.000+01:00Good point, Mark. This makes me think we need to ...Good point, Mark. This makes me think we need to ponder the question, 'Who was the toughest Puritan?' ... 'Who was the Mr. T of Post-Reformation English Protestantism?' <BR/><BR/>Hmmm ...Chris Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832290458905110111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-26669968681256216842007-06-12T20:46:00.000+01:002007-06-12T20:46:00.000+01:00Yes, Owen beating Milton. However, Owen did throw...Yes, Owen beating Milton. However, Owen did throw the javelin and rode his horse into battle. So, maybe he'd go the distance with Bunyan and a possible split decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-21050903317898242952007-06-12T20:43:00.000+01:002007-06-12T20:43:00.000+01:00On a slightly less serious note, I see Owen beatin...On a slightly less serious note, I see Owen beating Milton in a fist-fight, although Bunyan (another godly John) would probably be able to knock them both out, since he had some jail time under his belt. Just my opinion.Chris Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832290458905110111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-15871180.post-140701346362074882007-06-12T19:57:00.000+01:002007-06-12T19:57:00.000+01:00A great prompt for discussion, Susan, thanks. I th...A great prompt for discussion, Susan, thanks. <BR/><BR/>I think this underlines the diversity of identities within puritanism, proving helpfully that the movement was not a monolith. <BR/><BR/>Just the other day I was reading the diary of a puritan minister, and the (modern) editor of the diary had written in a footnote, in reference to something the minister had written, "An evidence of the Chris Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832290458905110111noreply@blogger.com